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Madrid skyscraper frame still standing after TWO
days of inferno...
Prior to 911, NOT ONE steel framed
skyscraper fell due to fire.... no, not since either! On 911, not one, but
THREE fell "due to fire" That's odd isn't it??????
Mon Feb 14 2005
AP - Firefighters brought a blaze in one of Madrid's tallest office buildings under control after struggling for nearly 24 hours to contain it, officials said. The fire, which left seven people slightly injured, broke out in the 32-storey Windsor building on Saturday about 22.20 GMT (09.20 AEDT). Thick smoke and searing temperatures prevented firefighters from entering the building until late on Sunday.
["Feared" by those that accept the government's
conspiracy theory that fire alone brought down three buildings in one day -
but it's still standing after burning MORE INTENSELY, and FAR LONGER than ANY
of the WTC fires. Look at the pictures yourself.... The photo at right shows
the frame of the building smouldering but still standing.]
World Trade Center Building 5 ~ Why No Collapse?
Towering Inferno In Caracas "it had burned for more 17 hours and spread over 26 floors"
(AP) Military helicopters doused one of
Venezuela's tallest buildings with water Sunday, bringing under control a
blaze many feared might cause the tower to collapse.
[Wow, there is that new "fear" about collapse of a
steel framed building in the media coverage again... interesting]
Source link from CBS News: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/18/world/main649824.shtml
Evidence that WTC buildings were brought down with demolition charges...
Another reason the 9/11 fire-mediated collapse theory has to be wrong
The easiest way to see that these buildings were rigged for demolition is to start by considering the fact that, between the time Flt. 175 hit WTC2 and the time the building collapsed, only 56 minutes had elapsed. And 56 minutes, simply, isn't enough time to develop a fire hot enough, nor large enough in extent, to even have a remote chance of getting enough steel hot enough to be a factor. The best way to see the absurdity of the fire-mediated collapse theory is to make some simplifying assumptions...and apply some simple math and physics to the problem. Say, for the sake of argument, that you’re concerned with one floor of the building. Assuming that you have an unlimited supply of readily combustible fuel available (which is, obviously, not true, but let's be generous), and there is no heat loss by convection, conduction or radiation (another ridiculous assumption, but let's give the shills every advantage). Now, the rate at which the temperature rises on that floor will be determined by the composite thermal mass of the building materials associated with that floor, and the rate at which you can bring in oxygen to burn the fuel. Assuming, say, about 5E5 kg of steel, and about 1.4E6 kg of concrete, per floor (taking internet based numbers at face value), with specific heats of about 450 and 3300 J/kg*C, respectively, simple algebra shows that you would have to release about 3.27E12 Joules of energy to uniformly bring the temperature from ambient up to, say, 700 degrees C (starting to get into the interesting range, but probably still not high enough to cause a collapse). The problem is that for WTC2, you have to release this huge amount of energy in only 56 minutes. That means you would have to burn somewhere on the order of 30,000 gallons of jet fuel in 56 minutes. That means you would have to supply air to the fire inside the building at a rate somewhere in the neighborhood of 6E5 cubic feet per minute. That's right, in order to bring the temperature of one floor of a WTC tower from 25 to 700 degrees centigrade, uniformly, in a short 56-minute time frame, you would have to supply about 600,000 cubic feet of air per minute...for each of those 56 minutes. And that’s a ridiculously high number. And even if you did find a way to create such blast furnace like conditions, the fact of the matter is that you would convect a significant portion of the heat away, just like what happens in a fireplace; in order to let fresh air in, you have to let the heated, oxygen-depleted air escape. If you were lucky, and the process was, say, 50% efficient (meaning the airflow only carried away half your heat), you would need to double everything, which would mean burning 60,000 gallons of jet fuel in 56 minutes, while feeding the fire with over one million cubic feet of air per minute. By way of the above numbers, the absurdity of the "official" version of events is laid bare for all to see.
9/11 Tower Recreation: Building Does Not Collapse Firefighting News | August 4 2006 There were dramatic scenes when experts torched a Glasgow tower block - to find out why New York's World Trade Centre collapsed when it was hit by hijacked planes. The experiment, filmed for a BBC documentary, was carried out in a 22-floor high-rise in Dalmarnock due for demolition by Glasgow Housing Association. Experts from Edinburgh University have been at the east end site for around a month preparing the block for the "freeburn" blaze, which was over in just 25 minutes yesterday. Scientists draped heat sensors over the front of the building to analyse data and record the temperature of the fire. A "truss" similar to the steel building frame used in the construction of the Twin Towers was also installed on the fourth floor to discover how it would react to flames and intense heat. Some experts believe the World Trade Centre would not have collapsed on September 11, 2001, if it had been built along more conventional lines. Glasgow production company Lion Television filmed the event for the Horizon TV programme. Around 10 cameras, including a cameraman on a 50ft cherry picker, recorded the fire, which was started at 12.10pm. A crowd of neighbours and onlookers gathered to watch the spectacle at 4 Millerfield Place as the director shouted "Lighting the fire now", followed by "Please exit the building, the flat's on fire". Within minutes, smoke could be seen filling the two-bedroom flat, which contained a couch, desks, a computer and bookshelves. It seeped through the edge of the windows and billowed out. Soon the windows could be heard popping as the fire reached temperatures of up to 900C. A member of the TV crew "said: "They're cracking, I can hear them cracking." At 12.15pm, what appeared to be the seal of the windows melted and floated to the ground, watched closely by a team of 10 Strathclyde firefighters. Plumes of smoke changed colour from grey to black as the first window shattered, sending glass tumbling to the ground. The acrid smoke filled the air as a window round the corner crashed to the ground. Minutes later, flames could be seen licking the window frames of the flat and a second window facing the front caved in. Once the property was fully on fire, a signal was given to fire crews to put out the blaze. The spectacle was all over by 12.35pm and only the smouldering devastation and blackened windows were left. Experts will set the tower block on fire again tomorrow, when a second-floor flat, identically set up, will be torched. However, this flat will be rigged with remote-controlled sensors which will open doors and windows to test the effects of ventilation on the fire. Jose Torero, a Peruvian professor of fire safety engineering at Edinburgh University, who led the fire experiment after tests on computer models, said: "It didn't even cross my mind the Twin Towers would collapse. " "We are trying to evaluate the structures which people use to build buildings and to test how fire burns in buildings." Three GHA tenants still living in the block have been put up in hotels while filming takes place. They are due to be moved to new accommodation shortly. The controlled blaze comes after a tower block in Toryglen was sprayed with thousands of litres of coloured paint on Saturday and Sunday. The empty high-rise was filmed for a TV commercial for a Sony high-definition TV. A spokesman for Strathclyde Fire and Rescue said of yesterday's blaze: "We hope as a result of this major experiment Mr Torero and his colleagues will come up with new information about fire behaviour that will save many lives in the future." BLAZE TIMELINE 12.10pm: Director announces fire is lit. 12.12: Smoke seen filling the inside of flat. 12.15: Seals on windows float to ground as smoke billows out of flat. 12.20: Glass shatters in first front window, quickly followed by window on the corner. 12.22: Flames seen at front window. 12.24: Fire takes hold around front window frame. 12.26: Second window caves in at front. 12.30: Flames spread round the ledge as smoke fills balcony. 12.35: Fire crews move in to extinguish blaze. I saw the smoke and the glass flying . . . it was quite dramatic FORMER resident and mum-of-five Pauline Birrell, 44, of Dalmarnock, watched the blaze with her four-yearold daughter Jade. She said: "I stayed on the 17th floor for 19 years. It was a great place to live, but they've moved me out to a new place on Springfield Road. "I was quite surprised when I realised it was my old tower block they'd set on fire. "I saw the smoke and the glass flying - it was quite dramatic. "If it helps to save lives in the long run and is for a good cause, it can't be a bad thing." Written by Evening Times; Glasgow
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