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Madrid skyscraper frame still standing after TWO days of inferno...
 

Prior to 911, NOT ONE steel framed skyscraper fell due to fire.... no, not since either! On 911, not one, but THREE fell "due to fire" That's odd isn't it??????

 

Mon Feb 14 2005


AP - Firefighters brought a blaze in one of Madrid's tallest office
buildings under control after struggling for nearly 24 hours to contain it,
officials said.

The fire, which left seven people slightly injured, broke out in the
32-storey Windsor building on Saturday about 22.20 GMT (09.20 AEDT).

Thick smoke and searing temperatures prevented firefighters from entering
the building until late on Sunday.


The office tower was heavily damaged but did not collapse, as had been
feared.

["Feared" by those that accept the government's conspiracy theory that fire alone brought down three buildings in one day - but it's still standing after burning MORE INTENSELY, and FAR LONGER than ANY of the WTC fires. Look at the pictures yourself.... The photo at right shows the frame of the building smouldering but still standing.]

However, officials said it was unstable and closed the area around the
building.

"What worries us now is its structural state because of the high
temperatures it was subjected to," Merardo Tudelo, director of the Madrid
Municipal Firefighters, told reporters.

Mayor Alberto Ruiz-Gallardon said "the situation is still critical."

Emergency officials planned to keep the area in the Spanish capital's
banking and business district cordoned off at least through Monday - a
closure that would affect dozens of businesses and several thousand
employees.

The department store El Corte Ingles, located alongside the wrecked
skyscraper, confirmed it won't open on Monday and told its 2,000 employees
to stay home.

Cars will be routed to neighbouring streets, subway lines under or near the
damaged Windsor Building will remain shut down, and adjacent office towers
will remain closed by order of the mayor.

"This is the biggest fire ... this city has ever had," Gallardon told
reporters outside the blackened hulk of twisted wreckage.

It was not immediately clear what caused the fire, but the building was
almost empty when the first alarm went off.

Only one of the seven firefighters who suffered smoke inhalation remained
hospitalised, Gallardon said.

By Sunday evening, flames were no longer visible, though gray smoke and ash
stoked by gusts of wind continued to pour from the blackened shell of the
building.

Hours earlier, several top floors collapsed onto lower ones.

Firefighter official Fernando Munilla said the entire building - which at
about 106 metres high is among the 10 tallest in Madrid - could collapse.

"If the partial collapses keep happening, it would be lying to say it's
impossible that the whole building couldn't fall down," he said.

Emergency crews at the scene said firefighters were waiting for the
temperature inside the building to drop, which they said would lessen the
danger of collapse.

At their peak, temperatures reached 800 degrees Celsius, said Javier Sanz,
head of Madrid's firefighters.

Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero visited the site and said, "I
wanted to thank all those people who have been working since early in the
morning: firefighters, police, and all those who have thrown themselves in
to help in this catastrophe."

Thousands of onlookers lined streets barred to traffic.

"It gives you a sense of insecurity" to think that fire could destroy a
modern building so fast, said Paola Mendez, an office worker from another
part of town.

"It's not that old. Was it well built?"

Construction of the shiny gold Windsor Building began in 1973 and was
completed in 1979. It became a landmark structure in Madrid's business
district. The building was surrounded with scaffolding due to recent
repairs, and a huge crane remained perched on its roof.


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Professional Demolition of World Trade Center Building 7

http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html
 

World Trade Center Building 5 ~ Why No Collapse?

 

 

 

Towering Inferno In Caracas

"it had burned for more 17 hours and spread over 26 floors"

(AP) Military helicopters doused one of Venezuela's tallest buildings with water Sunday, bringing under control a blaze many feared might cause the tower to collapse.

[Wow, there is that new "fear" about collapse of a steel framed building in the media coverage again... interesting]

Earlier, nearby residences and businesses were evacuated. Two floors and some staircases in the building collapsed. But by Sunday afternoon, the temperature inside the burning building had dropped, lessening the danger of a collapse, Caracas fire chief Rodolfo Briceno said.

"Engineers have gone up there and inspected" the building, Briceno said, adding that "it is very solid."

Neighbors of the 56-story, 730-foot office tower were allowed to return to their residential buildings in downtown Caracas' Parque Central complex Sunday afternoon, but firefighters expected to work through the night to extinguish the last flames and keep them from spreading.

The blaze began before midnight Saturday on the 34th floor of the East Tower in the complex, Briceno said. By Sunday afternoon, it had burned for more 17 hours and spread over 26 floors, reaching the roof. The complex was built in 1976 and is considered a Caracas landmark.

The building was empty when the fire broke out, but 40 firefighters were injured when they inhaled poisonous gases, fire officials said. Their condition was not immediately known and Briceno did not say what might have caused the fire.

The high temperatures also stopped firefighters from reaching the tower's upper floors, where the fire was strongest. Military troops and rescue teams were brought in to help, and military helicopters flew over the building, dropping water on the tower, which houses government offices and ministries.

Firefighters' efforts were also hampered by malfunctioning water pumps and the lack of fire extinguishers inside the building as fire laws are not strictly enforced in Venezuela.

Earlier in the day, officials expressed fears that the building might collapse.

"There is a problem because the building is made of steel. Because of the high temperatures, the structure could collapse," Interior minister Jesse Chacon told President Hugo Chavez during his weekly radio and television show.

More than 100 paintings and sculptures in the contemporary art museum next to the tower were put into a vault for safekeeping, a museum official said.

 

Source link from CBS News:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/18/world/main649824.shtml

 

Evidence that WTC buildings were brought down with demolition charges...

Another reason the 9/11 fire-mediated collapse theory has to be wrong
The easiest way to see that these buildings were rigged for demolition is to start by considering the fact that, between the time Flt. 175 hit WTC2 and the time the building collapsed, only 56 minutes had elapsed. And 56 minutes, simply, isn't enough time to develop a fire hot enough, nor large enough in extent, to even have a remote chance of getting enough steel hot enough to be a factor.

The best way to see the absurdity of the fire-mediated collapse theory is to make some simplifying assumptions...and apply some simple math and physics to the problem.

Say, for the sake of argument, that you’re concerned with one floor of the building. Assuming that you have an unlimited supply of readily combustible fuel available (which is, obviously, not true, but let's be generous), and there is no heat loss by convection, conduction or radiation (another ridiculous assumption, but let's give the shills every advantage).

Now, the rate at which the temperature rises on that floor will be determined by the composite thermal mass of the building materials associated with that floor, and the rate at which you can bring in oxygen to burn the fuel. Assuming, say, about 5E5 kg of steel, and about 1.4E6 kg of concrete, per floor (taking internet based numbers at face value), with specific heats of about 450 and 3300 J/kg*C, respectively, simple algebra shows that you would have to release about 3.27E12 Joules of energy to uniformly bring the temperature from ambient up to, say, 700 degrees C (starting to get into the interesting range, but probably still not high enough to cause a collapse).

The problem is that for WTC2, you have to release this huge amount of energy in only 56 minutes. That means you would have to burn somewhere on the order of 30,000 gallons of jet fuel in 56 minutes. That means you would have to supply air to the fire inside the building at a rate somewhere in the neighborhood of 6E5 cubic feet per minute.

That's right, in order to bring the temperature of one floor of a WTC tower from 25 to 700 degrees centigrade, uniformly, in a short 56-minute time frame, you would have to supply about 600,000 cubic feet of air per minute...for each of those 56 minutes. And that’s a ridiculously high number. And even if you did find a way to create such blast furnace like conditions, the fact of the matter is that you would convect a significant portion of the heat away, just like what happens in a fireplace; in order to let fresh air in, you have to let the heated, oxygen-depleted air escape.

If you were lucky, and the process was, say, 50% efficient (meaning the airflow only carried away half your heat), you would need to double everything, which would mean burning 60,000 gallons of jet fuel in 56 minutes, while feeding the fire with over one million cubic feet of air per minute.

By way of the above numbers, the absurdity of the "official" version of events is laid bare for all to see.

 

9/11 Tower Recreation: Building Does Not Collapse

Firefighting News | August 4 2006

There were dramatic scenes when experts torched a Glasgow tower block - to find out why New York's World Trade Centre collapsed when it was hit by hijacked planes. The experiment, filmed for a BBC documentary, was carried out in a 22-floor high-rise in Dalmarnock due for demolition by Glasgow Housing Association.

Experts from Edinburgh University have been at the east end site for around a month preparing the block for the "freeburn" blaze, which was over in just 25 minutes yesterday.

Scientists draped heat sensors over the front of the building to analyse data and record the temperature of the fire.

A "truss" similar to the steel building frame used in the construction of the Twin Towers was also installed on the fourth floor to discover how it would react to flames and intense heat.

Some experts believe the World Trade Centre would not have collapsed on September 11, 2001, if it had been built along more conventional lines.

Glasgow production company Lion Television filmed the event for the Horizon TV programme.

Around 10 cameras, including a cameraman on a 50ft cherry picker, recorded the fire, which was started at 12.10pm.

A crowd of neighbours and onlookers gathered to watch the spectacle at 4 Millerfield Place as the director shouted "Lighting the fire now", followed by "Please exit the building, the flat's on fire".

Within minutes, smoke could be seen filling the two-bedroom flat, which contained a couch, desks, a computer and bookshelves. It seeped through the edge of the windows and billowed out.

Soon the windows could be heard popping as the fire reached temperatures of up to 900C.

A member of the TV crew "said: "They're cracking, I can hear them cracking."

At 12.15pm, what appeared to be the seal of the windows melted and floated to the ground, watched closely by a team of 10 Strathclyde firefighters.

Plumes of smoke changed colour from grey to black as the first window shattered, sending glass tumbling to the ground. The acrid smoke filled the air as a window round the corner crashed to the ground.

Minutes later, flames could be seen licking the window frames of the flat and a second window facing the front caved in.

Once the property was fully on fire, a signal was given to fire crews to put out the blaze.

The spectacle was all over by 12.35pm and only the smouldering devastation and blackened windows were left.

Experts will set the tower block on fire again tomorrow, when a second-floor flat, identically set up, will be torched.

However, this flat will be rigged with remote-controlled sensors which will open doors and windows to test the effects of ventilation on the fire.

Jose Torero, a Peruvian professor of fire safety engineering at Edinburgh University, who led the fire experiment after tests on computer models, said: "It didn't even cross my mind the Twin Towers would collapse. "

"We are trying to evaluate the structures which people use to build buildings and to test how fire burns in buildings."

Three GHA tenants still living in the block have been put up in hotels while filming takes place. They are due to be moved to new accommodation shortly.

The controlled blaze comes after a tower block in Toryglen was sprayed with thousands of litres of coloured paint on Saturday and Sunday.

The empty high-rise was filmed for a TV commercial for a Sony high-definition TV.

A spokesman for Strathclyde Fire and Rescue said of yesterday's blaze: "We hope as a result of this major experiment Mr Torero and his colleagues will come up with new information about fire behaviour that will save many lives in the future."

BLAZE TIMELINE

12.10pm: Director announces fire is lit.

12.12: Smoke seen filling the inside of flat.

12.15: Seals on windows float to ground as smoke billows out of flat.

12.20: Glass shatters in first front window, quickly followed by window on the corner.

12.22: Flames seen at front window.

12.24: Fire takes hold around front window frame.

12.26: Second window caves in at front.

12.30: Flames spread round the ledge as smoke fills balcony.

12.35: Fire crews move in to extinguish blaze.

I saw the smoke and the glass flying . . . it was quite dramatic

FORMER resident and mum-of-five Pauline Birrell, 44, of Dalmarnock, watched the blaze with her four-yearold daughter Jade.

She said: "I stayed on the 17th floor for 19 years. It was a great place to live, but they've moved me out to a new place on Springfield Road.

"I was quite surprised when I realised it was my old tower block they'd set on fire.

"I saw the smoke and the glass flying - it was quite dramatic.

"If it helps to save lives in the long run and is for a good cause, it can't be a bad thing."

Written by Evening Times; Glasgow

 

GOTO: WTC7

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